The Masked Scavenger ([info]kynekh_amagire) wrote,
@ 2009-06-28 15:14:00
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Entry tags:movie reviews, snark, star trek, transformers 2

Good Idea / Bad Idea
Strangely, I've spent a notable portion of the past two days at the theater.

Exhibit A: J.J. Abrams's Star Trek.
Exhibit B: Michael Bay's Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

Seeing these movies back to back sort of invites comparison, and considering how, uh, different they are, the format that springs immediately to mind is Good Idea, Bad Idea from "Animaniacs".

What to include in your "teaser" to hook your audience into the story before the opening credits roll:
Good Idea
Action, explosions, familiar names, dramatic music, lives in peril, desperate heroics, Important Plot Points That Will Be Recalled Later.

Bad Idea
Was that a tiger? In Egypt?



How to introduce characters with whom your core audience is already familiar:
Good Idea
Bones (to Kirk): "My wife got half the planet in the divorce. All I've got left are my bones."

Bad Idea
Optimus Prime (to General Whatsisbollocks): "I am Optimus Prime blah blah blah Autobots blah Decepticons blah blah blah ancient times blah blah energon blah [ten minutes of chalky exposition] blah...."



How to gently let the pendantic section of the fanboy contingent know they're not in Kansas anymore, and that it's unreasonable to expect the new version to be exactly like the source material in all respects:
Good Idea
Spock: "Nero's very presence has altered the flow of history, beginning with the attack on the U.S.S. Kelvin, culminating in the events of today, thereby creating an entire new chain of incidents that cannot be anticipated by either party."
Uhura: "An alternate reality."
Spock: "Precisely. Whatever our lives might have been if the time continuum was not disrupted, our destinies have changed."

Bad Idea
Wolverine: "Nice uniforms."
Cyclops: "What would you prefer? Yellow spandex?"*



How to show you're taking the internal consistency of your story seriously, despite the fantastic setting:
Good Idea
Employ a continuity editor, and at least hand-wave the really outrageous science stuff, if there's no rational explanation.
Scotty: "Huh. I never would have thought of space as the moving object."

Bad Idea
Have robots drool, vomit, fart, and weep for the sake of "comedy"; be unable to calculate that five minus one plus one is five and not six; dramatically rip the top off of Khafre's pyramid (that's the really distinctive one which still has its casing stones, for non-geeks) at Giza, but don't worry about having the same pyramid, intact, in the background of subsequent shots; etc., etc., etc....


How to set up and pay off a running gag:
Good Idea
"You cheated." / "Time travel, changing history... that's cheating."

Bad Idea
A dog humping another dog / a robot humping someone's leg.


How to let your audience know that your main villain is not merely a monster of the week, but Serious Business, and the world as we know it is in peril:
Good Idea
Capt. Pike: "This is Captain Christopher Pike. To whom am I speaking?"
Nero: "Hi, Chris. I'm Nero." *commits genocide, takes off for Earth*

Bad Idea
Have him talk in a really mean voice.


How to use specialized camera work to create a sense of tension and action:
Good Idea
Use quick zooms and wobble to give a hand-held/gritty-reality feel to very carefully staged effects shots, "Firefly"-style.

Bad Idea
Shoot everything from a crane. Or a trolley. Or roller skates! EVERY CAMERA MUST BE MOVING, DAMNIT, EVEN IF NOTHING IS HAPPENING.


How to make a raunchy joke, but keep it suitable for a PG-13 audience:
Good Idea
Uhura: "And here I thought you were a dumb hick who only had sex with farm animals."
Jim Kirk: "Well, not only."

Bad Idea
Simmons: "Enemy nutsack sighted!"


When to drop the soundtrack out of your movie for dramatic effect:
Good Idea
When something explodes in space.

Bad Idea
Sometimes, at random, when anything explodes.



How to designate characters as comic relief:
Good Idea
Zany accents and snappy dialogue!
Scotty: "What? Are you from the future?"
Kirk: "Yeah, he is. I'm not."
Scotty: "Well that's brilliant! Do they still have sandwiches there?"

Bad Idea
Zany accents and racial stereotypes that are offensive or annoying, depending on context!
Sam (holding out Cybertronian symbols): "Can you read this?"
Skids or Mudflap: "Read? Nuh-uh."
Mudflap or Skids: "We don't really do much reading."


How to set up the final climactic battle sequence, where everything miraculously goes right for Our Heroes, without undermining the seriousness of their peril:
Good Idea
Scotty: "Okay, if there's any sense to the design of this Romulan ship, I'll be beaming you into the cargo bay. Shouldn't be a soul in sight."
(Kirk and Spock are beamed into Engineering, where a bunch of surprised-looking Romulans are staring at them and reaching for weapons.)

Bad Idea
Michaela: "How do you know this will work?"
Sam: "Because I believe it."


How to please the old-school fans with the end credits:
Good Idea
Get a full orchestra to do the original theme music.

Bad Idea
Nickelback.

I think the real lesson here is never start a "yo' momma" fight with a half-Vulcan.

* Fine, I can't blame Michael Bay for that one. I still hate it, though.



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[info]troubleagain
2009-06-29 12:57 am UTC (link)
Well done. Well done.

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[info]sandelwood
2009-06-29 01:09 am UTC (link)
This post completely wins on every point. I don't even have to see Transformers 1 or 2 to know this.

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[info]kynekh_amagire
2009-06-29 01:25 am UTC (link)
Thoughtfully, someone took the time to write a FAQ for Transformers 2, so you don't have to see it! (Well, you don't have to read the FAQ, either, but you should, because it's hilarious. The movie is bad. Really bad. Bad even by "soulless Michael Bay action movie" standards, and that's almost an achievement. This flick wasn't just half-assed, there was deliberate effort involved in making it this bad.)

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[info]sandelwood
2009-06-29 02:06 am UTC (link)
Yeah, see, I don't mind Michael Bay at all. Because there are just days when you want to watch shit blow up and indulge in some bad jokes (I actually loved The Island. Mindless entertainment, plus TWO Ewans? SOLD).

I was just never into robots from space that fold into useful things. Even as a child who never missed an episode of He-Man, who saw demons with skulls for heads and green tigers who were scared of everything unless you point a sword at them and make them Battle-Cat and said, "Right, that makes total sense *nod,nod* and I want a Battle-Cat of my very own". Transformers totally boggled me. I suspect this was the very beginning of my "OMG technology evolves too damned fast" issue.

Even the fact that it has Shia in it doesn't seem to help. And that helped Indiana Jones quite a lot.

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[info]crystal_phoenix
2009-06-29 01:10 am UTC (link)
Isn't it amazing that the same guys wrote both screenplays? *brick*

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[info]kynekh_amagire
2009-06-29 01:40 am UTC (link)
HOLY SHIT. I did not notice that.

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[info]crystal_phoenix
2009-06-29 01:49 am UTC (link)
And I came out of Star Trek with the very elated feeling I should have had for TF2. Funny how things go.

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[info]alchemy_gryph
2009-06-29 01:11 am UTC (link)
This should be printed and sent in celebrated Spam Style to every studio in Hollywood.

God, I loved Star Trek. Loved it with every fiber of my being.

Not going to bother with Transformers, but I have to find the time to go see Up.

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[info]troubleagain
2009-06-29 01:14 am UTC (link)
Oh, yes, you must see UP!

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[info]kynekh_amagire
2009-06-29 01:31 am UTC (link)
It's you! On my journal! OMG! Hi!

... sorry. Ahem. Uh, Up was reasonably entertaining; I didn't love it, but I didn't want to yell at everyone on IMDB who rated it the best movie they'd ever seen (a la WALL-E), so yay!

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[info]stoda
2009-06-29 01:49 am UTC (link)
Oh, so much applause and +1 for this.

Though... really... on the camera thing? The 'pseudo-hand-held-video' thing is getting pretty old.

But goddamn... MUST we have a circle shot of every single damn moment?

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[info]kynekh_amagire
2009-06-29 01:59 am UTC (link)
I liked the "Firefly" references, so I accept and forgive -- in this case. It's important to differentiate the "found-footage battle royale in space" (win) from its close cousin, the "if anything remotely interesting happens, get in reeeeeeaaaally close and jiggle the camera" Ridley Scott approach (fail).

JJ Abrams does a lot of the latter as well, which I find obnoxious, even when I'm not sitting in the first row of theater seats.

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[info]stoda
2009-06-29 02:33 am UTC (link)
Actually, one of the bits that bugs me lately is the 'brief out of focus flicker', as if the autofocus has hiccup'd.

That's fine, from a theoretically news camera POV or drone or whatever... but... from an obviously cinematic 3rd eye POV? No.

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[info]summer_jackel
2009-06-29 02:33 am UTC (link)
/claps/

This means that I shouldn't go see TFsII, huh? /little jackel lays sad head on paws/

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[info]stoda
2009-06-29 02:36 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't say THAT, exactly. Just... go see it at the Draft House, and have a beer or two during.

At a matinee showing.

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[info]dustwing
2009-06-29 03:42 am UTC (link)
OK this is somewhat off topic, but, in the vein of bad movies....haaave you seen Peter Jackson's "Meet the Feebles"?

I saw Transformers today...aaand I pretty much agree with you

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[info]kynekh_amagire
2009-06-29 10:59 pm UTC (link)
"It has your eyes, Sidney!"

By which I mean yes. Weirdly, it didn't annoy me anywhere near as much. Robot vomit? Strains credibility to the utmost degree. Puppet vomit? Hilarious.! Possibly because sapient robots are much closer to being something that could logically exist in the real world, whereas living Muppets.... er, not so much, but also, I was fifteen when I saw Meet the Feebles. Factor that in.

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[info]seabhacson
2009-06-29 05:55 am UTC (link)
Win. Full. Of. Win.

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[info]artonis
2009-06-29 07:01 am UTC (link)
I am wondering right now if I really want to go into Transformers today. XD

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[info]iatro
2009-06-29 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Lt. Leslie approves this message.

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[info]tailypo
2009-06-30 02:29 am UTC (link)
Seriously, I freaking love reading your movie reviews. I squeal every time I see one. You should start a site. XD

I want to see Star Trek again. It made me GIDDY.

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[info]eclipsegryph
2009-06-30 04:33 pm UTC (link)
You need to find more people to convince her to start a movie review site. She doesn't take me seriously when I tell her that her reviews are awesome and should be shared with more people. :)

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[info]kynekh_amagire
2009-07-01 02:24 pm UTC (link)
1. I can barely manage to update my Livejournal twice a month; think I should have another site to maintain?
2. Writing for my friends, even in a public forum, is easy and often fun. Writing for The General Internet Masses gives me some bizarre virtual manifestation of stage fright (which I don't even experience onstage in real life, so I dunno.).

Edited at 2009-07-01 02:25 pm UTC

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